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At certain points in music, a tie will need to extend ONLY to the following or preceding barline. For example, a tie (or ties on a chord) may need to extend forward at the end of a D.S. or D.C. measure, and ties may need to extend backwards at the beginning of a Coda section or on a second or third ending. Like all normal ties, the user needs a control over which direction these ties are flipped. The ties themselves may need to be attached to notes in a particular layer or voice. And while there are workarounds for creating these (believe me, I've used all of them) it's difficult, time consuming, they're prone to not looking like other ties in the piece, re-spacing can make carefully adjusted work look awful, and there just doesn't seem to be an easy- one step way to enter these AS true ties. And to complicate this - sometimes you'll encounter adjoining measures where the times need to extend forward to the barline in the first measure and backward (from different notes) to the barline in the following measure.

What I'd like to see is some pair of key commands in Speedy Entry that modify the normal Tie insertion - like perhaps Command = would mean: Tie forward to the following barline only and Command Option = would mean Tie backward to the preceding barline only. (or Command Right Arrow = and Command Left Arrow =)

Here are some example of the kinds of ties I'm referring to. This also illustrates how some ties might need to be flipped up or down from their default directions depending on context.

While I'm at it... the break in the continuation extender between the first and second ending... there's not exactly an easy way to manipulate lyric extenders forward to the following barline, or backward to the preceding barline either (but maybe that should be a separate feature request) just sayin'.

 

Mac OS Sierra 10.12.2 - Finale ver. 25.2.0.79

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Hi all:
I agree that Finale makes all the tie, slur, hairpin, word extensions -- not to mention the lines in the repeat endings -- editing tedious and error prone. I've documented as FIN-4399. You've provide a great example of the problem, Ric. Thank you.

 

Cheers,

Michael Johnson

VP, Professional Notation

MakeMusic

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I've used a hard space in the lyric to generate an extension without a syllable, but I agree with your ties request and also that the extender situation could be made more straightforward.

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Still on repeat issues:

I need to show a courtesy key signature change, a return to C major from F major, for a D.S. following the "last" bar of a piece and I can't see how to do this. It doesn't happen automatically.

If it were any other return key than C major / a minor, I could force the first measure of the D.S. to show the key signature, which would at least be some help to the players.

The only way I can figure how to do it is to add a virtual bar on the next page - this is not an elegant solution as it would screw up apparent page numbers & could cause printing complications.

Have I missed a trick somewhere?

 

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Hi Fiona:

There isn't a setting to force a cautionary key change at the end of a D.S. A 0 width measure in the new key is one way to go about it. I've documented this specific request as FIN-4495.

 

Cheers,

Michael Johnson

VP, Professional Notation

MakeMusic

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