Arpeggio signs are too long

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JOHN RUGGERO Posted January 18, 2017 14:11 Planned

Finale adds one or two extra links to its arpeggio signs, so that I am constantly adjusting their length. If they were one link shorter by default, the majority would be correct. And while I am now happy with my horizontal position settings for these signs, they still run into accidentals even though collision avoidance for articulations is checked. These issues are shown here:
The best solution would be an arpeggio sign designer box where users could specify the general length they prefer. And for collision avoidance to work for arpeggio signs.

Finale 2014.5 on OS 10.8.5

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MM_MICHAEL JOHNSON January 24, 2017 21:10

Hi John:
Great suggestions. Yes, Finale has not improved in this area for a significant time. We are researching the issue and hope to make some improvements. Documented as FIN-4403.

Cheers,
Michael Johnson
VP, Professional Notation
MakeMusic

Tommaso Scarabino Posted January 25, 2017 22:10

yes I agree with this request, this was one of my next request.

WILLIAM SAWYER Posted January 30, 2017 03:37

That would be great. I also have requested about 7 or 8 times since as far back as 2006 that there be a downward arpeggio (rolled arpeggio symbol with downward arrow on bottom) in articulations to choose from. no response EVER and, obviously, it hasn't been added to articulations.

JOHN RUGGERO Posted January 30, 2017 12:05

Thank you for the response, Michael. That is encouraging news.

William, I understand that they are working on SMuFL-compliant Finale fonts that will include many missing symbols. In the meantime, I use Bravura and other outside fonts to fill in where Maestro leaves off.

Jan Angermueller Edited January 31, 2017 18:05

AFAIK it's rather simple to solve the vertical size problem: just use a music font that has a "single" length wiggle element instead of "double" length as in Maestro.

For example if you use the arpeggio sign from the free Lilypond fonts the default arpeggio length in Finale is fine (i.e. symbol UxE15B in Cadence, Emmentaler, Scorlatti etc.). All of these fonts are included in the free Elbsound Music Font Package for Finale. An arpeggio library is also on that website.

See https://elbsound.studio/elbsound-music-font-package-for-finale.php#arpeggio

MM_MICHAEL JOHNSON Posted January 31, 2017 18:04

Great point Jan. Thanks for chiming in.

Cheers,

Michael Johnson

VP, Professional Notation

MakeMusic

JOHN RUGGERO Edited February 01, 2017 15:29

Thanks so much, Jan. I happened to have a font with a single squiggle and it worked perfectly. The Elsbound arpeggio library worked just as well.

(For anyone else who is trying this, the regular Elbsound Finale font package doesn't include the single squiggle. You must use the special arpeggio library file that the link in Jan's post above takes you to and put it in your User>Library>Application Support>Finale 2014.5 or whatever>Libraries folder. Then load into a Finale file and create an articulation metatool for one of the single squiggles that now appear.)

So all MM has to do is add such a glyph to their font libraries and work on collision avoidance with accidentals, and this will be a much improved feature.

MM_MICHAEL JOHNSON Posted February 09, 2017 22:51

Thank you for your observations John. We are working to improve Finale in this area.

Cheers,

Michael Johnson

VP, Professional Notation

MakeMusic

David Ward Posted February 13, 2017 16:10

I've just spent two hours adjusting every arpeggio sign in a modest 314 bar 20 minute piece for three performers. It would certainly be better not to have had to do this and to have a user controlled setting that would largely (there will always be exceptions) avoid the necessity.

Shing-kwei Tzeng Posted March 17, 2018 09:38

hello!

how to create a upward ( or downward arrow) arpeggio articulation? just like William Sawyer mentioned i year ago?

I have download ElbsoundArpeffioLib it seems not compatible with Finale 14.5 Mac OS 10.12.6 Sierra.

thanks!

Jan Angermueller Edited March 17, 2018 10:04

Shing-kwei Tzeng, the library is compatible with 14.5 MacOS. But it is built for the Elbsound Music Fonts Pacakge, not for the standard Finale fonts (Maestro, Engraver, etc.). So you need to install the font package too.

It can be downloaded here: https://elbsound.studio/elbsound-music-font-package-for-finale.php

Shing-kwei Tzeng Posted March 17, 2018 15:22

Hello Jan,

thanks for your information, I have downloaded the package.

which fonts folder should I put in the fonts, let me know the paths. thanks again.

best

Jan Angermueller Posted March 17, 2018 15:23

Please read the installation instructions that are included in the font package.

Shing-kwei Tzeng Posted March 18, 2018 09:09

Hello Jan,

I have put in the right folder .......Finale 2014.5 / fonts annotation, nevertheless it doesn't work.

I can't find the file MacSymbolFonts.txt for adding

Aruvarb
BetvnFIN
CadncFIN
EmntlFIN
EuterpeFIN

etc..

more information? thanks!

Jan Angermueller Posted March 18, 2018 12:40

Download the 1.0 version for MacOS and read the "Installation on MacOSX only" section in the ReadMe.txt file.

There you will find both the folder for the font annotation files and for the MacSymbolsFonts.txt.

Or read the Finale manual: https://usermanuals.finalemusic.com/Finale2014Mac/Content/Finale/Configuring_MacSymbolFonts_txt.htm

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