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Although Finale has HP enabled rit. and accel. expressions, we need a way to tailor an accelerando or ritard from a specific tempo to a specific new tempo over selected measures. Given the arcane workings of the MIDI tool, a plug-in could simplify that process by allowing a user to choose a starting tempo, an ending tempo, and perhaps whether the rate of change would be straight or parabolic, etc.

I know there are (crude?) work-arounds, but a dedicated plug-in would make this process vastly simpler.

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Hi all:

I agree. Finale needs to get cleaned up as it relates to defining playback tempo of the whole composition, a region of music, the shape of the accel or rit. It is on our roadmap. FIN-4244 is a part of the epic.

Cheers,
Michael Johnson
VP, Professional Notation
MakeMusic

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I second this. The workarounds aren't, I think, terribly crude, but they are technical and tedious.

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Yes please.  A dedicated plugin called Tempo Tool would most definitely fix any and all concerns with changes in speed.  It would bring back the precision and flexibility that was inherent in the tool.  The Tempo Tool allowed a person to change the speed of any part of a bar.  you could make it straight, you could make it parabolic, you could do anything and everything you wanted with ease and without having to switch windows.  It was one window that controlled the measure number, the beat of subdivision or sub sub sub sub division of a beat by breaking it down into units each of which could have a different tempo.

It was easy, it was flexible, it was one of the best tools finale had and I used it for every song I've ever created.  MIDI tool sux and arcane is a perfect description of it. 

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I definitely third this. Really...it used to be so simple, and when I think back to my antiquated Kawai Q-80 midi sequencer in the early 90s, it had a fairly efficient way to scroll through the time line and insert tempo changes. It's hard for me to believe that the fact that finale is based on midi, prevents it from having a quick and easy to use tempo tool. Using the Expression tool and about 10 more steps is way too  involved. I would forget by the time I went to change another tempo.

I totally agree with Pierre Massie!

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In previous versions of Finale, I've usually chosen a lot of the defaults through the set-up wizard process, often because I am composing with Finale, and may not be entirely sure how fast I want a piece to be, or in what key, or maybe even in what meter. The fact that the super-evolved Finale 25 doesn't provide me with the ability to update tempos without adding expressions is not merely a step backwards, it's destructive to my workflow, and inhibits the progress of composing. Seriously, Finale, what the hell were you thinking?

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Yes! Thank you MM_Michael Johnson! 

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Thank you all for your subsequent feedback. I apologize for the difficulties of the current implementation.

Cheers,

Michael Johnson

VP, Professional Notation

MakeMusic

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I'm so disappointed with the playback Tempo change. It was so easy with the little metronome. Now, It so complicated. I've created a Tempo with the Expression Tool and it changes the Tempo only for one bar. So I've put the Tempo expression that I've created over every bar... In either way the tempo changes for the first bar only. It's so painful and complicated that I regret buying Finale. Where's the Metronome that was so easy to use? 

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Natalie Beriault,

 

For what it is worth, I am unable to duplicate your problem.

I can change the tempo, and the changed tempo goes on in the following measures.

 

Have you tried the usual steps? - such as clearing Tempo Changes from the MIDI data?

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Peter Thomsen,

Thank you for answering me. I have Cleared the Tempo Changes from the MIDI data and nothing does it so I've started all over again with a new file and the tempo change is working. Thank you.

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Natalie, it should be easy to edit your tempo in Finale and the steps that you were taking should have accomplished this. If you run into issues like this again, definitely reach out to us with the Submit a Request button above and we can look into the problem with you directly. 

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David, Thank you. I will do that if it happens again but the tempo change runs fine with the new file I've created.  Thank you.

 

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Yes, please, Make Music or a plug-in developer, some "simple" optional window that would define parameters for each instance of a rit. pr accel.  E.g. start tempo and end tempo as a percentage of the current tempo (in addition to or in place of absolute MM tempo).  Start and end beat for the change.  Rate of change increasing or decreasing or constant (linear).  And maybe five choices to place the most noticeable part of the curve -- very early, early, middle, late, very late.  If you don't open that window, then HP resorts to its defaults.  But if you do open the window, it should show the default values until/unless you change them -- along with a reset to defaults button.  My workaround is to put it a lot of tempo changes with the font hidden (or show only on screen/do not print).  It's tedious.  

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Hi Christopher,

How do you realize those tempo changes. I can only change tempo by measure, not by e.g. quarter note - which is not enought for a fluent rit. However tedious, I can't make rit. (ritartando) work, Tried by defining shapes, but this messed up my complete composition as far as tempi were concerned! I simply want to make a rit. over 3 measures - can't be too much asked for a high level notation (and playback!) programm.

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I'm 2022 and F27. I can't seem to make poco accel work. It is completely ignored by HP, Romantic style. I've tried setting the expression to playback effect of modify the tempo and assigned a  playback shape of 41 (rising line at 45 degrees) Any suggestions?

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My suggestion is not to use a shape, which was a very early, pre-Human Playback way of indicating gradual changes.

Instead, most folks now rely on Human Playback to pace their change in tempo; just remember to put a target tempo (even if hidden) at the end of your poco accel.

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