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A list of musical instrument to be included in an Early Music Garritan product (consult Musical Instruments of the World for confirmation). Renaissance instruments generally came in families. Baroque instruments did not regularly come in families. David Munroe produced a set of recordings of many early musical instruments. The CD is surely available, and includes a very useful booklet describing the musical instruments. I made a point to not include the instruments from the Classical Period and also all large organs (organs that are built into a church or concert hall). I think that Garritan has a product that covers that family of instruments. Arguably, some of the instruments listed below are quite obscure and of uncertain value. I have provided an extensive but not complete list so that musical instruments can be easily removed from the list.

This list was produced by Peter H. Adams, October 7, 2016

WIND INSTRUMENTS

  1. Family of Renaissance recorders (descant, treble, tenor, bass)
  2. Family of Baroque recorders (sopranino, descant or soprano, treble or alto, tenor, bass, great bass, subcontra bass) Note that in some countries the name descant is used for soprano. Treble is sometimes used for alto
  3. Family of Renaissance flutes (soprano or descant, alto, tenor, bass)
  4. Baroque flute (one-keyed flute, German variety and French variety, also piccolo)
  5. Family of Renaissance shawms (treble, alto, tenor, bass, great bass). Note that the great bass shawm was/is rare.
  6. Cornemuse (Baroque double reed) [no historic examples exist, but modern reproductions exist]
  7. Crumhorn (soprano, alto, tenor, bass)
  8. Korthold (soprano, alto, tenor, bass)
  9. Racket (Renaissance double reed tenor and bass versions). Likely only the bass version can be found as a reproduction
  10. Racket (Baroque double reed).
  11. Rauschpfeife (treble version is known to me)
  12. Baroque oboe (French and German versions), also oboe d’amore, cor anglais, baritone oboe fill out the Baroque family of oboes
  13. Dulcian
  14. Bagpipe (most of this family are folk instruments, but the cornemuse is a French bagpipe meant for indoor music making. Germany and England have their own versions, including the union pipe or uilleann pipe, and musette from France)
  15. Natural trumpet (likely only one size)
  16. Sackbutt (alto or descant, tenor, bass, double bass)
  17. Cornetto (treble, tenor, serpent). The zink is a straight version of the treble cornetto and has a very slightly different tone quality.

            Gems horn (the horn of a bull with finger holes, suggestive of an ocarina in sound)

  1. Portative organ (very small lap-held pipe organ) [uncertain if modern copies exist]
  2. Positive organ (very small lap-held pipe organ) [uncertain if modern copies exist]
  3. Bible organ (reed organ in the shape of a book) [uncertain if modern copies exist]
  4. Sistrum (shaken percussion instrument)
  5. Bells (Church bells, hand bells also known as clapper bells, and bells struck with a hammer). Technically, the hand bell orchestra came into being in the 18th century, most likely
  6. Nakers (two kettle drums each tuned to a different note)
  7. Mirliton (predecessor of the kazoo, used in the 189th century, but not widely). [uncertain if modern copies exist]
  8. Rote (plucked Anglo-Saxon lyre) [uncertain if modern copies exist]. Folk instrument
  9. Bowed lyres (cywth from Wales, kanteleharp from Finland, and Tallhara from Estonia). Folk instrument
  10. Harps (celtic, and surely other modern reproductions exist)
  11. Lute (descant or treble, tenor, bass, great bass, theorbo, arch lute, chittarrone)
  12. Mandolin
  13. Mandola [uncertain if modern copies exist]
  14. Cittern
  15. Pandora
  16. Baroque guitar
  17. Organistrum also known as hurdy gurdy
  18. Viola da gamba (pardessus de viole, treble, tenor, bass, violone). Note that the Renaissance gambas have a different tone than the Baroque viola da gamba. The bass viola da gamba existed into the early 1800s. Stradivari made at least one bass viola da gamba
  19. Viola d’amore (two varieties exist: the viola d’amore and the English violette or violetta, all string with sympathetic strings)
  20. Baryton (bass viola da gamba with sympathetic strings)
  21. Lira da braccio
  22. Lirone (also known as the lira da gamba)
  23. Baroque violins (slightly different construction to the modern violin, and gut strings rather than metal strings). This description also applies to the viola, cello, and bass
  24. Kit or pochette (small pocket-sized violin used mainly during the Baroque era by dancing teachers; effectively a soprano violin)
  25. Tromba marina (bowed string instrument)
  26. Clavichord (note that this keyboard instrument has an unusual technique called bebung. This is a technique where the performer presses down on the keys in a tremolo-like action. The result is the only keyboard with a true tremolo). Used during the Renaissance through the early Classical period. German, French, and Flemish instrument are considered the best sounding instruments. Many modern copies exist, including fretted or unfretted varieties
  27. Harpsichords (clavicytherium, virginal, spinets, and double manual). Best instruments are German, French, Flemish, and English with each region and type having distinctive sounds. As an example, the French Baroque double manual harpsichord is much louder than the small spinets of the late Renaissance
  28. Early pianos (pre-1832 all metal frame). Each region had its own style and sound. German, Viennese, French, and English pianos are well regarded. Square pianos were frequently used, and have a more delicate sound than modern pianos, being strung with a lower tension and thinner strings. Note that there exist many types of key actions that result in different tone qualities. Rare early pianos had special pedal that altered the tone of the piano, or activated a percussive instrument built into the instrument.

 

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Sounds like a good idea to me. Especially the early pianos. I've always wanted to hear what those sound like compared to the modern pianos.

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What about oboe da caccia and violoncello piccolo?

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How about the aulos, Krumhorn, and Dulcian? The aulos is like a historical version of the oboe. I believe the krumhorn is like a trumpet. And I think the dulcian is a historical version of a bassoon.

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Yes, I know this is a very old thread. Apparently nothing came of this. The closest anyone has come to this is Fluffy Audio's Rinascimento, which is a Kontakt instrument.

As a retired semihemidemopro early music player, and retired support librarian for an early music program, I'd make the following edits to your suggestions:

1) I'd add the 'nino, C bass and F great bass to the Renaissance recorders
7) Add great bass Krummhorn
8) Delete. We have no historical examples of these, and they're close enough in sound to the cornamusen (which should be modes with extension keys
9. The whole consort of Racketts has been in reproduction for years and should be included
11. There are Ni-SAT Rauschpfeiffen
12. For marketing, I'd move all the post-Hotteterre woodwinds and other Baroque things into a separate product.
13. Dulcians: Gt bass up through alto, maybe soprano. The sopranino dulcian should be avoided as a public health hazard.
Keyboards: There are a few positives and harpsichords available as Hauptwerk instruments, and they play well through Finale, though I've not yet figured out stop management from Finale

Here's my budget-Renaissance list, for a sample set that anyone could afford (or find storage for!):
Renaissance recorders. nino through subbass
tenor flute (at least)
Krummhorns
Treble and alto shawm (must have both, very different acoustically) Don't really need entire consort; they weren't often used that way
Bass dulcian
Great bass rackett? (to double bass krumm at the octave)
Doucaine consort (newer thing after the Mary Rose "shawm")
Cornett
Tenor sackbut (maybe add bass)
Renaissance violin band
Viole de gamba (DTB)
Bray harp (sampled with and without brays on)
Arpa doppia
Tenor lute
Cittern
Theorbo
Positive organ, and regal







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John Garside great mention for the oboe da caccia Yes that is a great one as it appears in one of Bach’s famous works St John’s Passion.  Here is a short video about this instrument 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5gPcBqtDt4

Viol family the precursors to the modern strings or baroque strings.  
Sackbucket and crumhorns already mentioned.
Natural trumpets/horns?

The Bate Museum Oxford is a good place to see baroque instruments.  They did at one point have soundfonts to download but that is now dead and the website owner doesn’t know where to find them. 
https://www.music.ox.ac.uk/about/resources/the-bate-collection/

I found this link during lockdown last year after realising that if you want an authentic baroque sound you won’t get it as a VST within your existing sound libraries and at a reasonable price. There is the Soniccoutre conservatoire collection that is an eye watering £179 (to me that is).

 

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Orchestral Tools are releasing an extensive 'Baroque' sample library. It's heavily discounted if you pre-order it before its launch at the end of the month. While €250 (+vat) is still a sizeable outlay, it's pretty cheap for a decent library, and much less than the €399 (+vat) full price.

https://www.orchestraltools.com/store/collections/miroire

 

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Ben I have just looked at the instrument collection and saw it earlier today when signing up for the sine player.  

my personal opinion looking at this offering i’d say it is slightly lacking on instruments from the baroque period.  It might be when I say baroque I also lump in instruments from the medieval period as well. I’d expect the see serpents, sackbuts, viols etc…..  But they seem to have actually stuck with the definition which is “BAROQUE”. Serpents, sackbuts, viols etc….  did spill over into the baroque period.  GF Handel used serpents in the original score for the Royal Fireworks and water music.  I suspect the modern equivalent is the bassoon or contra bassoon.  Sackbuts appear in Handels oratorio Saul.  The modern equivalent is the modern trombone.  Handel didn’t include viols so they might have been ancient by his time and the true baroque violins, Viola, violincello and basse had arrived on the scene.  I don’t see a viola Da. Gamba again another instrument that Handel wrote for.  Sacre bleu no harpsichords 😳.

Note I am just trying to point to the message group that the new offering seems to be lacking when it comes to the instruments from the baroque period.  The blurb seems to point that it is aimed at TV and films.

The soniccouture doesn’t seem to list what is included except a harpsichord.

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Something is better than nothing. The lack of any keyboard continuo is a bit surprising, but there are already plenty of harpsichord and chamber organ sounds out there, and those instruments have changed the least in timbre over the centuries. (Waits to be corrected.)

Yes, it's definitely 'core 1730s', but it will be very useful for me, so I've ordered it and can't wait to give it a try! 

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Ben let us know what you think of that sound set.

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I've been experimenting with Miroire for the last day or two. The upper strings are very good, with a nice astringent quality. The wind and brass are also excellent sounds. The choir is pretty hopeless for anything other than "film-score mood". 

The "Basso Continuo" is one instrument of mixed celli, contrabass and bassoon. There are no separate Bassi instruments, so no Cello or bassoon.

The attack is quite late in the sustain, and the release too long, though these can be adjusted somewhat in the player. Balance and ensemble is quite tricky. 

That having been said, because the individual samples are quite lovely, I'm pretty keen to persevere, and use the upper strings, woodwind and brass, alongside other instruments from other libraries. 

Here's some of what I've managed so far, which is far from finished results. 

https://www.dropbox.com/s/1qd95zfid5h0mmk/gibbons.mp3?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/0y53nis6zsatqn2/Qui%20sedes.mp3?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/3qzbghnlp0tr2z7/Allegro.mp3?dl=0

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Just spotted this today after the announcement about Finale so I came here to have a look at what happened since I last logged onl. Just downloaded the MP3’s and will listen later.

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