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Hello,

I have created a two-staff Viola line, where the top staff are for G-, D- and A-String; the bottom staff for C-String, which is detuned a whole step down. For C-String staff, I have transposed it up M2 (+2 Sharps). 

There are beamed 16th- and 8th-note passages which involve a combination of both staves; some mid-beat. Because of this, I need to cross-staff those notes that would be played on C-string. (They would first be written on G/D/A-String staff) However, when I transfer a note cross-staff, the written note stays the same as if it was on its home-written staff, rather than being transposed. Obviously, the latter is what I need.

(I could obviously just manually go through my 120 measures and move every single C-string note up M2. Hell, that's what I did for the example below. However, it would not playback right. Above all, it is very time consuming to do that and create a separate hidden staff that plays back the right notes. I have a deadline to meet!!)

Is there a way to fix this?

 

 

 

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If I understand you correctly, all notes are entered in the upper staff - right?

Some notes are cross-staffed to display in the lower staff, but they are entered, and play back, in the upper staff - right?

This means that the lower staff is {for display only} - right?

 

In the lower staff, instead of using a staff transposition, use another clef, namely the {Treble Clef with 8 below it}.

In the Clef Designer you can edit the clef so that it displays the C glyph.

With the Staff Tool you can give the lower staff Independent Key Signature, so that it can display a different key signature, with two added sharps.

You will have to avoid {Linear Key Format 0} and {Linear Key Format 1} since they are “hardwired”.

But {Linear Key Format 2} is fully customizable, so that you can move the key signature accidentals down by 1 step.

You will also have to lower the octave placement of the second sharp, but it is all possible (do-able).

This example was created with Finale v27.

In spite of the C glyph displayed at the beginning of the lower staff, the two notes actually are displayed on the steps for ‘F’ and ‘E’.

 

I hope that this is clear?

If you have questions about this, let us know.

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Thank you kindly for the response, Peter Thomsen.

Yes, you are correct in the Sul A/D/G Staff is the one producing playback; and Sul C Staff is non-functional and display-only. 

Your instructions make sense to me, and I feel confident that it should work the way you suggest it will. Though at this very moment I can't yet try them out (busy with other areas of compositional assignment!), I will soon.

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It worked! At least for now. I'll definitely come back, if I come across any bugs or peculiarities.

(I do have to admit: learning how to create a non-standard signature was a bit confusing for a moment. But, after observing and 'playing around' a little, I finally got the jist of it; at least what I needed to know for this specific inquiry.)

Thank you again!

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I do have a companion question, which I think will be beneficial to myself:

Is there anyway I can configure a score to have F#-Major transposition, when the Key signature is G(flat)-Major (Sharp-Flat equivalent keys)? In this case, (unless there's something I haven't forseen) I think it might be more convenient for me to have a transposition; rather than the manual illusionary method that Peter Thomsen suggested above.

This will come in handy for a future orchestral piece or two, as well as a choral piece, that is very likely to be written in G(flat)-Major. The Viola and/or String section will be written in F#-Major, since stringists psychologically prefer sharps, due to the nature of their instruments. (We choral singers and pianists, as well as many orchestral instruments, prefer flats; especially Vocal Basses, and Altos/Contraltos (maybe).)

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That would be a D𝄫 transposition (a staff transposition for an “instrument” in D double-flat).

 

I would use the Staff Tool, and define a custom Staff Style:

Interval: -1 (= move the notes down by 1 scale step)

Key Alter: 12 (= add 12 sharps)

 

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