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Hello everyone, I'm writing with Finale "Sicut Cervus" by Giovanni Pierluigi Da Palestrina. In the score I have Sopranos KS, Altos Ks, Tenors KS and finally Basses KS.
The problem concerns the Basses part. I'd need to increase the extension in order to insert the notes specified in the score. The notes are inserted on the score but the playback doesn't work. Is it possible to change the range of an instrument? I need an extra B, C and D. Thanks for any suggestions.
 

Finale 25,Windows 10.

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Select the region and use Utilities -> Change Instrument to locally change the Basses to Tenor in the Bass staff.

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You could also use the Full Choir KS voice from the included Garritan Instrument for Finale (GIfF) set.

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Both good suggestions.

 

As a singer whose practical range is from the Bb below to the F above, I’ve always been amused by the limited range of Basses. 

 

Yea, I get called when someone wants to program Rachmaninov’s Solemn Vespers.

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Thanks to everyone for the suggestions! I will try both solutions, also because I read the procedure to change the range of a Garritan instrument and it was not "user friendly". In addition to the Garritan vst choirs there are other vst choirs compatible with finale?

Ciao!

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Thanx Adrian for the suggestion! As for the choirs, if I use the utilities "change instrument" and imposed the tenor voice there is a significant decrease in volume, I don't know how to solve it. At the moment the most acceptable solution is to use Full choir KS instead of Basses Ks, even if the sounds are not exactly the same.

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WoWoWoW!!

I just discovered the limited upper range of the bass voices!!

I was (am) genuinely dismayed to think someone thinks the bass range ends at A220 (just below middle C).

What would Beethoven have thought? As I recall (and it has been a few years), the basses sing up to the F above middle C.

It is standard in hymns to have basses to be able to sing up to a middle C now and then.

How very odd and disappointing.
:-(
Vanessa

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One should never write choral bass parts higher than E above middle C. Ever. Just don’t unless you are writing for a specific choir and know which singers are reliable on the notes. And then know that many experienced choral conductors will automatically reject any work if they spot an F in the ensemble bass.

Soloists sometimes have the F and even the G but anything above E should be given to baritones — if the choir is large enough to have such a section.

 

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Beethoven's music was not always kind to vocalists.

 

But in addition to any range limitations, few if any vocal sound files are particularly useful anyway. Many folks substitute winds or strings (or some other sounds not used elsewhere in the arrangement) for the vocal sounds provided.

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Mike --
Yes, I agree about not writing about the E.
That said, I mentioned Beethoven because he wrote for the high F in his 9th.


Very humourous article about it here: https://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/first-person/article-could-i-sing-the-fourth-movement-of-beethovens-ninth-and-live-to-tell/

One excerpt: "...the bass part calls for long-term work in the castratosphere, bar after bar of sustained high notes that normal room oxygen cannot fuel."
Another: "For the first couple of weeks, wearing helmet and pads, I dreaded every opening of the score, knowing that sooner or later I would come up against Bar 612. That’s “Death Row” to survivors. It’s a series of high F’s, and the basses are out there buck naked, no other parts singing and the orchestra at a hush. The first time I saw the score I counted the ledger lines a few times to make sure I was right. He wants us to sing that? Five times? Alone? Was he nuts?"

But, even if I wrote "only" to the high E, Finale drops out with the moderate B.

:-)
Vanessa

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Adrian,

Thank you, again.

Yes, woodwinds or strings do work.

Prior to the choices offered with GPO5 (which I only recently discovered...) I usually did both in order to hear a viable/functional playback.

I like the variety and the clarity of the GPO5 choir choices, except they are just too limited.

As always,

"Use it up,
wear it out,
make it do,
or do without."

-- an adage from my mother's days growing up in the Great Depression.

:-)
Vanessa

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I’ve sung the 9th. Yikes!

 

In 2000, I sang The Wanderer in a production of Siegfried. There’s this F# in the final act — me vs that note and I didn’t always win.

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Wow! Mike,

That is truly impressive. The Wanderer certainly is not a casual role by any means. What a great opera and role!!

BTW--I received this from Kevin at MakeMusic.

Please know that you can extend the range of a Garritan virtual instrument by modifying the associated "sound font file" (*.sfz). You can follow the steps in this knowledge base article:

https://makemusic.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/218212707-Extending-instrument-ranges-in-a-Garritan-library

I will follow up on the Garritan side, as (at least mine) the "Basses Aah.sfz" file seems to have different coding parameters.

:-)
Vanessa

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