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This has been an issue for years. Even though I have, in Document Options, always selected Default Style is Previous Measure's Right Barline, new measures do not use the dashed barline I've selected for all the prior measures. I always have to manually select all and then change the new barlines to Dashed. This is getting old-the amount of time I've probably spent over the many years fixing this is probably considerable. Can't there be a way to set a default barline style that carries through to new measures automatically? Thanks.

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This - and all of the other longstanding issue posts - brings up an interesting question: For many years, we have (sort of) explained away these issues as old, convoluted, patched and repatched code. With the long awaited 64-bit version, will many of these issues be addressed? One would hope that they wouldn’t just update the code and leave the errors. But if that’s what happens, many people will be even more upset with corporate than they are, now. That could truly be another downward plunge.

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There is a misunderstanding of the setting. If you look closely, that option is under [Left Barlines]. The left barline will take the setting of the last measure in the previous system.

 

 

Notice that the left barline of the first system doesn't have a barline when this option is selected. This is because there is no previous measure/system.

 

Selecting all measures (using the *select all* command) and choosing your barline of choice doesn't take much time at all.

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Yes I am aware the setting refers to just the left barline. But it does not affect the right barline. If I have a measure with a dashed barline left and right and create a new measure, the right barline defaults to the default. Not dashed. 

yes one can select all and right-click and change the left barlines. That’s what I do now. But I shouldn’t have to. I should be able to set the right barline default. 

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You are still misunderstanding. The setting won't affect subsequent right barlines, it will only affect LEFT barlines according to what the (right) barline setting is on the last measure of the previous system

 

If you want to want (right) barlines to be affected globally, you can create an alternate group barline in the *Group Attributes* (though, this won't work with single staves.)

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I think we are saying the same thing. Yes that setting doesn’t affect subsequent right barlines. That is my entire point. It’s not that I misunderstand. Read my previous comment. I don’t know how much clearer I could have been I’m asking for this to affect right barlines too. For subsequent measures. I get it; this doesn’t affect you. But it affects me and as a user I would appreciate this enhancement. I’m sure it can be accommodated. 

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Your OP is stating that this setting is a bug. It's not. You want the setting to affect right barlines. It is not designed to affect right barlines. It is under [Left Barlines].

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SMH. 

I strongly disagree with your characterization of my comments. I did not say that this is a bug. I asked for an enhancement. Just as there is a setting for the left barline as mentioned, I want a similar setting to affect the right barline. I was told to post this here by finale support. I have no interest in arguing back and forth. Life is too short. 

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"Barline choices do not carry through automatically...

 

"Even though I have, in Document Options, always selected Default Style is Previous Measure's Right Barline, new measures do not use the dashed barline I've selected for all the prior measures...

 

"Yes I am aware the setting refers to just the left barline. But it does not affect the right barline..."

 

 

Sorry if I misunderstood your comments. It seemed as if you misunderstood that the setting only affects Left Barlines, because it sounded like you selected the setting expecting it to affect right barlines. If you aren't working with single staves, I'm sure the alternate group barline setting will do what you want.

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Maybe I'm mistaken, but the way that I've understood this document option, is that whatever right barline you choose, in the subsequent measure that choice will be applied to the left barline. In this example I changed the right barline in measure 3, and that choice is applied to the left barline in measure 4.

 

If I hadn't selected that document option, then the left barline of measure 4 would have remained a normal barline.

 

Nowhere do I see this being an option to change multiple barlines throughout a file.

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Regardless, I think there should be an option to have the right barline carry through to new measures. 

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David -

you're absolutely right and I support your request "there should be an option to have the right barline carry through to new measures".

Internally, Finale is handling a database of notation objects. If a new database object (in this case, a measure) is created, it gets some default values: the normal right barline seems to be hardwired in the code. This is not the optimal way of handling it, the preceeding measure's right barline should definetly be selectable in the document options.

You write "the amount of time I've probably spent over the many years fixing this is probably considerable.". If that is the case, you can speed up that process with this JWLua script which you can trigger via a hotkey (like all plugins). This might save you some time. It changes all (ALL, even the last) barlines to dashed:

local measures = finale.FCMeasures()

measures:LoadAll()

for m in each(measures) do

m.Barline = finale.BARLINE_DASHED

end

measures:SaveAll()

 

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Harald, thank you. This is helpful. Interesting that even if group attributes specify a specific barline type, the last barline on a page will always be the default, so yes it seems that this is hardwired in the code. 

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