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I'd like two things for the next final version.
1 the possibility to insert comments (notes) in order to exchange opinions with the collaborators. There is the possibility with a Lua script but it has several limitations. This functionality has been requested for many years and I would like to "dust off" the request!

2 the possibility to give the file to the client preserving the possibility that he can reuse the template. As if it were read-only making it active only with a password. I know that a solution would be to make a pdf and an audio but many clients also want the .musx file. Thanks in advance

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I second both of these requests, particularly the first. Being able to share comment markup is something we can do currently with hidden (non printing) text, but it’s a little clumsy. would be great to have something more like the Word model for comments (adopted by both Sibelius and Dorico. )

I usually can get away with sending an audio mp3 along with a PDF, but I have also had clients who work in Finale who want to work in the master file. It would be nice to have a way to make the file read only / play only without access to make edits or review proprietary house style settings.

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>...It would be nice to have a way to make the file read only / play only without access to make edits or review proprietary house style settings.<

 

Hmmmm... this ability has existed for many years — but not in the full version of Finale. Finale NotePad was able to open Finale scores without the ability to edit. The ability to lock the score should be easy to implement — weird that it’s never been done.

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Thanks for the answers. Mike, are you sure notepad wasn't editing the files? For my requests I'm waiting for some official answer to know if there is a going to do anything or an intention.

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I fear we will see nothing major (and probably, nothing minor) done until after the full 64-bit version is released. And debugged, with more defects found by the user base. We will never get any response about intentions. The only person who did actually say that certain things were planned is no longer with the company.

 

Coincidence? I think not.

 

Maybe we should all invest in Gear Fisher's stock company. It sure looks like he's spending more time satisfying stockholders than Finale users. When Finale goes under, we can cash in.

 

 

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I do not recall that Notepad was able to edit a Finale file. It was a long time ago since last opened it and am not firing up my Windows computer to check. I used it as a free Finale viewer for my students. Lessons that I distributed as NotePad files were limited to 8 staves and the NP feature set — pretty sure that, if I could have just created them in Finale, I would have done so but again, that was over 11 years ago as I recall.

 

My point was that NotePad would open any Finale file, no matter what size, and allow playback using General MIDI. Of that, I'm certain.

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Riccardo Del Prete MIKE HALLORAN I'm not a programmer, but my understanding of this type of student or light version of software is that the application is basically the same application as the full version, but access to certain features is simply turned off. You could turn off pretty much any functionality. It's a fast value add for the developer (except that NotePad was never monetized, right?)

In a perfect world, it would be great to be able to hand off a score to a composer client who could make edits to content (if given permission), or play back the file, but not to see or change or view anything related to house style. For instance, no access to Document Options, Category Designer, Articulation / Expression / Shape Designer, Chord Suffix editor, and so forth.

However, hiding dialogs and so forth on the application side is different than hiding functionality on the document side, which is really what would be needed.

While I can see it being fairly straightforward to design a student version of the program like NotePad which simply "turns off" access to various "professional" sections of the application,  I'm going to guess there is quite a bit involved programmatically to build controls to turn access on or off for specific areas of Finale in such a way that they would be document specific.

I agree that the focus currently is (and should be) building out all of the full 64-bit code behind the scenes as a first order of business. It's certainly not as sexy as auto stacking articulations, but will most certainly help MakeMusic play the long game, especially with everything going on with Finale's competitors. 

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Robert is correct. You could open and do minor editing: only the features that NP had would work. 

There were (sneaky) workarounds, though. For example, you could download the Finale demo, and copy the templates. You could use those templates in PrintMusic to get more staff styles.

 

I think NotePad was monetized ($10, IIRC) for one or two versions. 

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>...but my understanding of this type of student or light version of software...<

doesn't match my memory of having used it. Could I be wrong? Sure, of course. Frankly, I don't care. 

 

You are making assumptions that can be tested by anyone with a Windows computer and a license Finale 2014.5 and prior. NotePad 2012 for Windows is still a free download. Now that I think of it, I could test this on my old G4 — the NotePad for Mac downloads are still in my MM User Account. Whether you're right or not doesn't matter in this case because we are discussing a feature request for future versions — but go ahead and let us know what you find out. Again, I don't care. 

 

>I'm not a programmer...<

Ok, I am but I don't do it for a living and have no access to the source code. Once again, in case you've missed my point, is that the behavior of NotePad tells me that the ability to lock Finale docs to a Read Only state should be easy — same as Acrobat, Word, FileMaker and countless other applications. One more time: I don't care — it's not an issue for me.

 

The other possibilities: MM could come up with a true Read Only app as others have done or perhaps a version of that old, awful Scorch plugin from Sibelius that allows users to transpose lead sheets (that SheetMusic+ and a few other sites still distribute old vocal scores that way is another reason I still have my G4).

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>There were (sneaky) workarounds, though. For example, you could download the Finale demo, and copy the templates. You could use those templates in PrintMusic to get more staff styles.

 

I think NotePad was monetized ($10, IIRC) for one or two versions. <

 

I'd forgotten that they tried to charge for NP — can't remember when but you're right. Yea, all sorts of sneaky workarounds. Hey, don't have all the fonts and templates you need for PrintMusic, Songwriter, Allegro etc.? Ha! Download the full version demo—problem solved!

 

The only reason I know that NP 2012 for Win is still out there and free is because I answered a MusicXML question on it in the Problems... board last week. I was surprised that a) it's still available and b) it worked for the OP. Amazing...

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Any locking would have to take place on the author's machine. Otherwise any Finale file sent to someone with the player software could hand it to someone with access to Full Finale, and that person could mess with it.The author would have to control the locking (not to mention that someone would be trying to crack it).

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>Any locking would have to take place on the author's machine.<

 

Absolutely — same as any other application that allows this including the ones I've mentioned previously.

 

>The author would have to control the locking (not to mention that someone would be trying to crack it).<

 

Unfortunately, that, too, is pretty easy in this internet age. It's one reason I have no interest in the functionality being added to Finale. Even though I know how to keep my files from being cracked or copied by pdf based font extractors, nothing can stop scanning software or those who would open a notation app and just enter the notes.

 

There's an old saying along the lines of, Locks only keep honest people honest. Too true...

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In fact as I said the best thing is to lock the file read-only with a password to fully access the file. This would avoid copying the house style, created articulations, expressions and all placements. Many of us have created with study and sacrifice our own library of expressions, articulations, placements, fonts and want to avoid giving all this to the first client to use it!

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I must be missing something. If a client insists on getting a Finale file, you can either tell him no, or you can give him the file in a basic template format, without your custom expressions and all the rest. Then he could fool around all he wants, but he will only get the final, publishable score as a PDF. Unless, of course, he wants to pay you for it.

 

But it really doesn’t matter; all of this is copyable/steal-able with time, study, and a couple of scan programs. 

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Using scanning programs doesn't get you the same result as obtaining custom libraries or articulations. Anyway, no controversy. mine was just a push for MM to work on some aspects that may be important to some users. On the other hand, this request already exists for Office files and other programs including Pdf. I just hope MM will read this forum.

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