Finale samples inquiry, are they originally 44.1 Khz or 48 Khz

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Mike Richardson Posted October 15, 2020 20:51

I'd like to export my music from Finale into a WAV file. I notice that Finale device setup has 48Khz and beyond. My USB interface, RME babyface, supports 48Khz. But does this WAV at 48Khz offer better quality if the Finale samples are originally 44.1 Khz? I'm asking because in my DAW, samplitude, seems to have a problem with the 48Khz WAV files from finale. Can you tell me about the Garritan and default Finale samples: Are they are 44.1 or 48Khz please?

For example, the Garritan Violin, and the SmartMusic Clap, Smart Music Drum Set instruments and VDLite TenorLine sticks_10-LHd1_000210C.audio ? screen shots below shows the instruments I'm using.

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J ADRIAN VERKOUTEREN Posted October 15, 2020 21:36

I do not know what you will be using your WAV export for, but in most cases no one will notice the difference between 44.1 and 48K.

I generally use 44.1 for simplicity (and file size) sake.

MIKE HALLORAN Edited October 16, 2020 05:14

>I do not know what you will be using your WAV export for, but in most cases no one will notice the difference between 44.1 and 48K.<

Sonically, you're right but that isn't the issue.

This was a major problem for many years for Mac users who used devices requiring 48kHz since Finale was locked into 44.1. I don't recall which build — whether 2014.5 or a build of 25 where that issue was resolved. No longer an issue.

For me, it was Dragon Dictation that always reset my Mac's System Audio to 48kHz. The workaround was to reboot my Mac after quitting DD and before starting Finale. DD is no longer offered. Though the last version does work over Mojave, I know longer use it. The voice recognition in the MacOS keeps getting better.

The issue has not gone away. Zoom, like most AV apps requires 48k. Native players such as Windows Media along with iTunes/AppleMusic do not have this issue but 3rd party apps do.. If playing audio from an app or DAW through Zoom, 44.1 does not work.

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J ADRIAN VERKOUTEREN Posted October 16, 2020 15:15

If the OP must export 44.1 Garritan sounds as 48K,he may want to check the pitch of the results (if that is important) since I know on the Dorico forum folks are finding that a mismatch, at least between program and sound-card setting can change the output pitch by a semitone or so.

Mike Richardson Posted October 16, 2020 16:59

ok, I'm still confused. If making music on a computer, were like a flowing river, I'd like my computer to keep 48Khz all the way through from beginning files until a mix and export from my music project. I'm exporting to WAVE so I can IMPORT into a DAW . Then I align/record a live bass guitar track to a WAV Finale track. Currently my Samplitude complains about a bit error problem with these 48Khz files. and I don't think it did this before, so the problem seems very strange. Are you saying that export Finale to 48Khz introduces potential problems, pitch of violins may change and is like trying to fake upscale? So they are 44.1 samples originally?

MIKE HALLORAN Posted October 16, 2020 19:50

>are the Finale samples originally sourced as 48Khz?<

It doesn't matter. Really, it doesn't.

Ok, this is an ongoing issue made more prominent by Zoom and the decline of CDs. There are many utilities that convert sample rates—some free; the rest inexpensive. To prevent pitch change, check the box for Resample.

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