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I am getting comfortable with Finale 27; but the latency (the delay that when I depress a key and when the note simutaneously sounds and appears on the staff) has prevented me from using Hyperscribe,

My question is: Do you actually know anyone who has been successful at using Hyperscribe, with Finale?  What MIDI device?

                 

 

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Hi Marc,

 

There are a number of articles and instructions on this. The problem is that, without knowing your setup, no one will be able to point you in the right direction. Besides this,

https://makemusic.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/community/posts/215729367-General-Discussion-House-Rules 

please let us know your metronome source as well as how you are monitoring, through your MIDI keyboard or monitors on your Mac/PC.

 

When I type hyperscribe latency in a Google search, I get 2,800 links. You might try following the first few to see if any hit the nail on the head. As you'll see, this describes many different problems, each with its own solution.

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I'm only answering this because I only quite recently again found myself entangled in the Finale midi lollapalooza, after having upgraded to v. 27 a couple of months ago. Can you make Finale playback through a hardware midi device (a sound module or synthesizer) rather than a software one, at least for testing? I've had some success doing that. I don't claim any success with software routings for midi sound throughput, although I'm sure it is possible, and even commonly relied upon.

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Hi, from my experience hyperscribe is an outdated tool surpassed in features by a million DAWS and midi recording apps. This said, it may serve you well for recording very VERY simple music slowly. However, if you want to play music in real time for notation, your best option is to use a real sequencer like Garage Band (free on Mac) or Logic Pro, and then quantize the music there to your liking before then exporting it as a music xml file into Finale. That's how I record and notate all my piano music. Logic Pro lets you even record without a metronome and follows intelligently your tempo, something Finale should have implemented a decade ago.

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Laine nails it:

entangled in the Finale midi lollapalooza

 

Since the OP has neither answered questions nor posted his setup, all we can do is guess. We aren't mind readers.

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Hi - I've used hyperscribe for decades... works for me with single voice parts pretty well. I don't expect it to do much more.

You must play VERY accurately - and yes... triplets are tough. Those 20 years of piano lessons paid off big. (thanks mom)

Also - any bluetooth headphones/ear buds will cause a delay in hearing notes as you play them. I couldn't find a way around that - so I just use wired earphones. The sound is practically instant with wired headphones / ear buds.

 

I use a mac with a Keystation49 midi keyboard. 

 

Here is a link to some terrific videos to get you further down the road... 

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THOMAS GUNTHER: I'm intrigued by one thing you said, namely exporting as a music XML file.

I've never used hyperscribe (the concept seemed very challenging to me back in the day and it seems I wasn't mistaken), although a long time ago I did use the transcription tool that older versions of Finale had. For many years, I've been improvising into a DAW (in my case, Reason) and as I just did over the past few days, carefully notate every sequencer note by hand into Finale. It's painful, laborious, and the only way I get through it is to keep telling myself it is still much better than what the late Conlon Nancarrow went through to punch his piano player rolls by hand. 

So if there's a way to export sequencer output (Reason for one) as MusicXML, that would be helpful. I've certainly exported sequencer output to a MIDI file and imported it into Finale, but that has never been very reliable for me even with quantization, perhaps due to the limits of Finale's own quantization settings and how it can really mess up rhythms and note durations. Any details would be great. Reason, unless I've missed something all these years, cannot export data except as MIDI, so are there other DAWs that do export to MusicXML? Thanks.

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Well, I don't use Reason, but I can imagine that it has a score view and hopefully allows you to export your score as an xml file after you cleaned up your performance to your liking. XML is much better than Midi, because Finale won't quantize your music at import. This means the rest and note values should look exactly as they look in your DAW. Good Luck!

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You might want to take a look at Reason someday. There is no score view. It’s a really nicely designed rack with more possibilities than I could count and a decent enough sequencer. But it’s designed to make hip hop loops. I’ve made it work for me (I write minimalist,  or as I call it, focused music) and was introduced to it by my friends the composer Richard Friedman many years ago.  It has a great Farfisa rack extension and some good pianos and organs/synths so it’s worked for me. But nope, no score view. There is an attitude among some that there is no need to read or notate music anymore. Obviously I disagree…

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Well, then you are out of luck. I use Logic Pro because it gives me a fantastic score editor that makes midi performances look almost perfect after just a few clicks. I can then export that view into Finale to do my score and part layout work.

Here is the link to the article and video I made about using hyperscribe:

https://www.musictrainingonline.com/hyperscribe/

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