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Hi!

When writing for horns I usually write in one staff with pianosound and later explode to several staffs to make the parts.

Often there are unison passages that split into harmony, but when exploding the unison passages is only copied to the top staff. 
There must be a setting to copy/explode to all staffs?

(It's takes a lot of time finding all the missing/ unison and copy/ drag them. Even worse, so easy to miss..)

Best regards,

Pelle Fridell

MBP 10.12, Finale 25

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Funny how that MM mind-reading routine never seems to work.

(Programming has limits.)

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Thanks Adrian (again :-) )

There is an option to put extra notes into one of the stafs, why not the opposite when there are less notes than staffs... :-9

 

/ Pelle

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The program would have to know 

1. That you wanted to expand unison to multiple parts.

2. How many parts to add/expand them to.

3. Which parts to add/expand them to.

That's a significant programming challenge without requiring so many inputs as to make it a burden.

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Hi Adrian and thanks for your input!! 

You surely know much more than I do about the problem. Are you one of the programmers?

I'm a converter from Sibelius and just trying to adopt my workflow over.... I sib the copying of unison/ selection/ destination never was a problem, though there are other things to struggle with (as the program trying to be intelligent and put the notes in other octaves than written... :-) ) You mark what to explode, copy and mark where to explode.

One aspect is that its much easier/ takes much lesser time in a session/ concert/ rehearsal to tell musicians to tacit music, than telling whats missing. In my book that I prefer always to copy unison, like in sib. I'm just practical, wanting to be effective and get musical result in shortest time... :-) 

I have cross graded to Finale because friends writing great arrangements/music are using it, and then I have issues with Avid's business model (PTHD, Sib). I don't want to be a part of that anymore. But thats totally another story... :-)
Now I'm trying to become as quick and secure as before, and feeling safe that the sheets I present for bands/ orchestras are complete.

Best regards,

Pelle

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Pelle,

Thank you for taking the time for an extended explanation. I am not a Finale programmer, but I was a DB Admin before I retired and did some programming associated with that job.

If Sibelius does what you are requesting, perhaps MM programmers will be able to adapt Finale to do it as well. It is really a question of defining the problem (considering all the options you and other users might need) and taking into account any unintended consequences within the current source code.

I can see the advantage you would gain if a routine could be worked out.

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Hi Adrian and nice getting in contact here, I really do appreciate your responce!! Thanks!! :-)

Well, I also do my living beeing a sax/ woodwind player I have played a lot of great music notated and written in Finale... I have seen that as a proof of the value to make the switch. 

There is the Finale way and the Sib/other programs way. I'm about to learn the Finale way, and are bumping into problems on the way. 

Hopefully my experiences can make it easier for other taking the same trip/move, and might get MM's attention and inspiring to make the crossgrade even easier.

And last, your input is of great value, both as the information you give, but alsro the fact as an experienced user sharing knowledge! Thanks!! :-)

Best regards,

Pelle Fridell

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Check out the plugin Staff Polyphony by Jari Williamsson (www.finaletips.nu) It's one of two already working for v25...

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Thanks Frank!!

I'll check this out, could save a lot of time...  :-)

Best regards,

Pelle Fridell

 

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I now see you are on Mac, and none of his remarkable plugins are yet available for Finale 25. (2 are for windows.) If you have an earlier version of Finale you can perform the magic there before returning to 25 :)

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I also struggle with this. It should be a simple fix: Explode unison notes to all staves.

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thanks. i installed the polyphony plug-in but I don't think it does what I need. (or i can't figure it out)

What I usually do is copy the music to both or all staves, then explode to 1 staff and delete extra notes from top or bottom.

It would just be easier if Finale would have a  'duplicate single notes on each staff? " option,  or something like that.

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The plug-in works fine for two staves, copying unison notes to both. However, there is always an issue with three staves. I guess Jari could set things to copy the unison notes to all staves, but what if you have two notes? Would you have 1 and 2 in unison, and split to 3, or 1 and 2, and a unison in 2 and 3?

 

Use it, enjoy it, and learn to deal with the limitations. Thank you, Jari!!!

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2 notes is the problem. Entering music on staff 3: beat 1 C, beat 2 C and E. When I explode to staff 1 and 2, I get a C for beat 1 and an E for beat 2 on staff 1, but a rest for beat 1 and a C for beat 2 for staff 2.I want a C on both staves for beat 1.

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Enter music on Staff 1.

 

 

JW Staff Polyphony (select that top measure, and Apply)

 

 

Result

 

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thanks! yes that is what I was looking for, with 'keep original staff"

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Glad we could help!

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