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BILL BERTOLAS Posted
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Operating System: iMac High Sierra 10.14.4     Finale:  25.5.0.259

For many years I have encountered problems with the lyric editor.  I have called on several occasions, but your software engineers seem to not be able to correct this problem.  Let me explain.

I regularly prepare choral scores (3 staves) that have soprano and alto in the top staff (layer 1 & 2), tenor on the second staff (layer 1) and bass on the third staff (layer 1).  I type the text into the Lyric Window (or paste it there from another source), and then prefer to click-assign the syllables to the appropriate notes.

Now here's the catch.  If I have been notating (or correcting something I've noticed) in the alto (layer 2) and FORGET to choose layer 1 before going back to click-assigning more lyrics, Finale hangs up and I have to force a quit.

What's more, I often copy from an already existing file that has the same music in certain sections.  When I do this (1) I'm never sure WHERE (in which Verse) it is going to put the text for the music I've copied into the new file; and (2) when I go to click-assign the newly imported lyrics to music in the new file, it does not assign the lyrics...it does nothing.  The only way to proceed is to Type Into Score, and that renders the pasting half useless.  Of course I realize I can change the settings in the Edit menu and take along only the notes without the lyrics, but that is unproductive.

So I'm saying that either your programmers are out of their depth on this one; and I do have to admit that I don't think what I'm doing is in any way unusual.  Many church musicians would be doing exactly the same thing, and we value the features of Finale to do our usual things.  But the fact that I can MAKE finale crash by either intentionally or mistakenly trying to assign lyrics to the wrong layer (and why should I not be able to assign lyrics to another voice in polyphony where different voices sing different syllables at the same time?).

Is there some explanation in the Finale materials that I've missed years ago?  Or is this a problem that needs to be addressed? Please help me out here.  

Bill Bertolas

bertolaswm@hotmail.com

414-482-1343

 

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Dave Cusick Posted
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 Hi Bill, welcome the Forum!

 

It is unfortunate to hear that you are experiencing this issue and for so long too! I replicated your steps on my end, however I am not getting the same results. You should be able to enter lyrics on any layer without issue and that is what I am seeing on my end. Finale does not freeze when I do this. Please go ahead and use the Submit a Request button at the top of the page to open a support case with us. We are happy to troubleshoot the issue and find an answer but the Community Forums is not the best way to do this as we will have more direct communication through the case system. 

 

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MIKE ROSEN Edited
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Bill,

 

I have notated hundreds of barbershop scores, with the possibility of different lyrics for each voice. That's four voices on two staves. My workflow is a little different from yours, but still, I have never encountered that problem.

 

Could you send me one of your scores, and let me see if I have any luck with it? Send it to wawoodman at aol dot com. (You should remove or encode your email and phone number, to prevent the evil bots from picking it up!)

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