If I understand you correctly, you need the same formatting on all pages - right?

Document menu > Page Format > Score…

In the dialog box Page Format for Score, set the formatting as you need it *)

Then, switch to the Page Layout Tool, and go to

Page Layout menu > Redefine Pages > All Pages of Current Part/Score

*) Perhaps you do not know what Page Format settings you need?

You only know that Page 3 is formatted as you need it?

In that case do this:

Page Layout Tool.

Page Layout menu > Update Page Format for Score (select this - and remember to de-select it when you are done; it is program specific, not document specific)

Click on a system, to select it.

Page Layout menu > Systems > Edit Margins…

In the dialog Edit System Margins, change one of the values to something else.

You could e. g.change the Left Margin from zero to something else, and click Apply.

Then, change it back to zero (not via Undo!), and click Apply.

Close the dialog Edit System Margins, to return to the score.

If you now go to Page Format for Score, you will see that the settings have been updated.

Now you can Redefine All Pages.

Remember to de-select Update Page Format for Score when you are done.

If you want a quick-and-dirty way to reformat your system margins, use the Page Format > Systems > Edit Margins option to change all pages (except your first/title page) to match:

If notes themselves are also larger, that is an additional, separate case.

… If you want a quick-and-dirty way to reformat your page margins …

The steps will affect the system margins, not the page margins.

To change the page margins, go to

Page Layout menu > Page Margins > …

You are right: I was talking about system margins. I have changed the post above.

It would be helpful if Ray could post an image to show what the problem is. His use of the word page in his post seems a little vague considering what he describes following. (Not that  that excuses my own error.)

Here's a PDF showing some of P1 and some of P2 too large. large.

I've tried the advice about Page Margins, but it doesn't seem relevant. It's staff sizes and associated notes within it

Hi Peter Thomsen

I did try what you describe for "you only know that Page 2 is formatted...." and I don't understand what you mean by ""click on a system" nor do I see how to "redefine all pages" under page format for score. Sorry, can you help more?

Ray

@Ray Wilson,

From the screenshot you provided, you have six pages in your file and only page 2 is "wrong." Is that right? Can you take a screenshot of a few dialog boxes?

On a CORRECT page, navigate to:

Page Layout Tool > Page Layout menu > Resize Pages (Page Reduction)...

and take a screenshot of the dialog box settings.

With the Page Layout Tool Selected, click on a CORRECT system's handle to select it and navigate to:

Page Layout menu > Resize Staff Systems (System Reduction)...

and take a screenshot of the dialog box settings.

Follow the same steps for the WRONG page and system(s).

Take a screenshot of your *Page Format for Score* dialog box settings by navigating to:

Document menu > Page Format > Score...

We should be able to get to the bottom of the issue from there.

Ray,

Thank you for the image. You will need to work with the Percent (Resize) Tool.

Without selecting anything, right-click on a measure on a page that has the size you want. You will have a choice to resize the page, the system or the staff. You can forget about the Resize Staff option. You will want to select each of the other two choices and copy down the numbers in the resize panels. Here is what they look like, but considering your page size you will probably not want to use my numbers.

Once you have copied down the numbers in each panel, exit those panels and right-click on an unselected measure of the page/system(s) that are the wrong size and fill in the appropriate panel with the values from the corresponding panel in the page that appears as you wish. (I'd start with the Resize Page panel, since I think that is what has been affected, but it could be that your systems on that page are the problem.)

… Hi Peter Thomsen

I did try what you describe for "you only know that Page 3 is formatted...." and I don't understand what you mean by ""click on a system" nor do I see how to "redefine all pages" under page format for score. Sorry, can you help more?

Ray …

1) You have to be in the Page Layout Tool.

When you are in the Page layout Tool, Finale displays handles and margins on all systems (and a system number to the left of each system).

My words “click on a system” mean “click inside the system’s margins”.

Finale will highlight the system’s upper left handle, to tell you that the system is selected.

Now you can go to the dialog box Edit System Margins (Page Layout menu > Systems > Edit Margins…)

2) Quoting myself (my first post in this thread):

Then, switch to the Page Layout Tool, and go to

Page Layout menu > Redefine Pages > All Pages of Current Part/Score

thanks you all for that help. I've been arranging for a few months now, but always handed my Finale file over to my mentor to publish for the band; I guess his program was set up differently. Now I've changed the settings for one file will these stay in the program for all subsequent files?

regards, Ray

… Now I've changed the settings for one file will these stay in the program for all subsequent files? …

No, document specific settings are document specific - program specific settings are program specific.

Document specific settings are settings about the layout.

Program specific settings are settings about how the program should behave.

Document specific settings are all the settings in Document Options - and Smart Shape settings - and the settings in the Document menu, such as e. g. the settings in Page Format for Score.

Program specific settings are all the settings in Preferences - and some few other settings, such as

Page Layout menu > Update Page Format for Score

(hence it is important that you de-select {Update Page Format for Score} when you are done working on the document)

To make “all subsequent” Finale documents have your preferred settings, create a document with the settings you need, and use that document as a template for new documents.

You can use the document as

- a Document Style (then, put it in the folder Document Styles)

- a Default Document (then, put it in the folder Default Files, and select it as Default Document in the program’s Preferences)

- a Template (then, put it in …)

Geddit?

thanks, Peter. I have a standard doc which I open & Rename so I'll make the changes there. Thanks again

regards, Ray