mangled staff/group names, mid-score group changes, and hiding

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Alex Cap Edited October 04, 2017 04:51

I have a really specific situation, but I'll describe it in case I've found a bug.

I have a large orchestral score (46 staves) that's well over 1000 measures, and the last 300 or so measures is in a separate measure region.

There is a synth part in it, and in order to reflect the different patch changes, I define various groups with different names that last a certain amount of measures throughout the score. There are no gaps. I have set for all of them "hide only when all staves are empty," but when I "hide empty staves," it will disregard this setting. It does not disregard this setting for groups that last for "all measures."

Next issue...

If I hide a bunch of empty staves and then change the % zoom on all the pages or change a page layout item like removing system locks globally, staff and group names get mixed up. Furthermore, staves that were hidden are now unhidden.

If you're testing this, for good measure and to get closer to my setup, change the rules for some groups (like trumpets, piano, or violins) to "only hide when all staves are empty."

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PETER THOMSEN Edited October 04, 2017 12:12

Without examining an actual Finale document we can only guess.

My first guess (regarding the second issue):

There is a well known bug involving Finale’s dialog boxes, and measure numbers in dialog boxes (not measure numbers in the layout!).

Are there any measures that have - in the Measure Attributes - the option “Include in Measure Numbering” de-selected?

If the answer is yes, then go to

Preferences - View

and select the option “Display Actual Measure Numbers” (NB: this option does not affect the layout, only dialog boxes).

* Did the second issue go away?

PETER THOMSEN Posted October 04, 2017 12:55

Regarding the first issue:

… I define various staff groups with different names that last a certain amount of measures throughout the score. There are no gaps. I have set for all of them "hide only when all staves are empty," but when I "hide empty staves," it will disregard this setting. It does not disregard this setting for groups that last for "all measures." …

I am able to duplicate this issue, but only partially:

If the staff group includes all the measures in the systems involved, i. e. the staff group both begins at the beginning of a system, and ends at the end of a system, then “Only Hide If All Staves Empty” is respected everywhere in the staff group.

In Other Words:

It is important that the systems are locked so that the staff group encompasses entire systems.

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