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I am attempting to write tuplets in two layers; layer one with 3 eighth note triplets and layer two with mixed quarter/eighth note triplets. Finale does not seem to allow me to do that properly. Attachment 1, written in Encore shows what I am attempting to do in Finale. Attachment 2 shows what I get in Finale trying to do the same thing. This is a piece of finger-style guitar music. Any help will be greatly appreciated.

I am using Windows 10 and Finale 27.3.

Thank you,

Terry Prohaska

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You can do what you want in Finale though your lower Encore bar makes no sense to me. Enter 'Tuplets' into the 27 manual and you will call up 49 listings many pages including the Tuplet Tool and Rhythmic Subdivision and JW Change plug-ins.

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Typically in fingerstyle guitar music notes with down stems are notes picked with the thumb and up stems with a finger. Notes with stems in both directions are generally thumb notes. That is what I am trying to portray in the score.

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Mike Rosen, I downloaded your tutorial and it didn't seem to help much. I generally experiment a great deal when I am having an issue and can usually figure it out before I bother asking for help.

Thank you for your reply.

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I quickly tried it out, didn't see any problems. There are several ways to do it, I was using Speedy Entry. Just make sure your tuplet setting is Enter 3 Eighths in the space of one Quarter. Use Ctrl-3 to enter the tuplet mode, enter a quarter note (5) and an eighth (4). Do the same for the next tuplets. To be sure to avoid any confusion (and this may not even be necessary, but it shows clearly what you are doing) I entered the Layer 2 notes by showing only the current Layer. Afterwards you can adjust the stem direction, tuplet brackets. etc. Worked for me

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Michael,

That worked beautifully. Thank you so much. I had tried a number of things but had not thought of showing active layer only or using the 3 eights in the space of 1 quarter which makes sense after your comment. I know that is an unusual way to notate something, but it works for me. Just one thing, the tuplet mode is Ctrl-9. Thanks again.

Terry

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From the manual: Press CTRL+number in the number keypad. You can press any number between 2 and 8 to specify the tuplet value that you’re about to enter. When you do so, the number you pressed appears in the upper right corner of the editing frame, telling you that Finale is ready to group the next notes you enter as a tuplet defined by that number.

Ctrl-3 works for me to enter a triplet. Ctrl-9 would be the shortcut for changing all selected enharmonic notes.

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Terry, what part if the tutorial did you feel was lacking? Many folks have found it helpful, but if there’s something I missed or glossed over, let me know, please.

 

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Mike,

Thank you for your question. I don't think anything in your tutorial is lacking. I believe what I was trying to do is something most writers would not need to do. I write a tremendous amount of fretted string instrument music, much of which I include tablature. For fingerstyle guitar, I write in two layers, one for the fingers and the other for the thumb. What I was doing on the example I provided, I don't even use very often, but I am driven to try and figure out ways to make Finale do what I want even if it doesn't like to. I began using Encore in the mid-nineties and Finale in the early 2000s. I still use Encore for much of my notation-only music, but Finale does tablature much better, so I have been rewriting hundreds of scores with tabs in Finale. Your tutorial did a great job explaining mixed tuplets, but it didn't seem to help when I wanted one type of tuplet in layer 1 and a different one in layer 2 on the same beats, an unusual way of notating. It did work by showing Active Layer Only on layer two and changing the numbers in the tuplet dialogue to 3 eighth notes = 1 quarter note for the mixed tuplet in layer two. I hope that makes sense.

Thanks again,

Terry

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