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Basic smart shapes (crescendo, decrescendo, simple lines, etc.) cannot be placed precisely after using the Peterson Beam-Over-Barline plugin. 

In this simplified example, I place a crescendo between two other expressions and adjust the ends to fit nicely between the two:

After deselecting and doing something simple like Zoom In or Zoom Out, the length changes:

Clicking on the handle will restore the original position until another Zoom is done.

It appears that this is related to the presence of the "extra" eighth note that has been added by the Peterson Beam-Over-Barline plugin. When I select the handle and drag one end or the other, the blue "rubber band" appears to snap to one of 4 possible positions within the measure. In the case shown above, it snaps to a presumed position of the "extra" eighth note as if it where spaced within the measure. Then after deselecting and changing the Zoom, it appears to jump to a position based on the actual location of the "extra" eighth note which is in the next measure.

Any ideas on how to prevent this from happening and be able to precisely position the Smart Shapes? Automatic Update Layout and Automatic Music Spacing are both off in the Preferences. Finale 26.3.1.643 on a Mac OSX 10.15.7

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William Ooms,

 

I can confirm the issue; the same happens for me.

 

Fortunately there is a solution.

I just tried it on your very attached example, and it works for me:

The plug-in Beam Over Barlines uses one solution when beaming across a mid-system barline, and another solution when beaming across a system break.

1) Before you run the plug-in, arrange the layout so that the first measure ends a system, and the second measure begins the following system.

2) Run the plug-in Beam Over Barlines.

3) Now you can re-arrange the layout as needed; the beaming does not have to cross a system break.

You may have to join the two beam “stubs”, but you will not have the smart shape problem.

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Peter -- 

Thank you for your helpful reply. That appears to work. 

The other thing I played with is the "trial-and-error" approach to positioning: Move it over some, Zoom out and in to see where it ends up, repeat as necessary. 

Since this happens in a score with other instruments, the fix will have to be applied to the full score as well as the individual part (unlinked from the full score). 

Thanks,
Bill

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