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Hi, there is a symbol in Finale Maestro for nail pizz under Plucked Strings with half-oval fingernail symbol however is there any other? In the past, I've used then common practice which was two circles one inside the other ....there are Bartok plucked pizz but that's not it

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Can you post a screen shot, please? It can be .tif or .png.

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Hi Mike, I've done considerable research again and Bartok and Carter used it fairly early on...many string players use the nail symbol that is in Finale Maestro SMuFL...I find the standard size of 24pt too small and can get lost in busy score...enlarged the symbol to 36pt without bold and with text to spell it out (only used once in whole score)....it worked for me....

 

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Fortunately, if the font can't give you what you want — or getting the right size is too convoluted to be practical, it's easy to add the mark as a Graphic. This is well covered in the manual but, if you need help with it, let us know.

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Hi Mike, I've done considerable research again and Bartok and Carter used it fairly early on...many string players use the nail symbol that is in Finale Maestro SMuFL...I find the standard size of 24pt too small and can get lost in busy score...enlarged the symbol to 36pt without bold and with text to spell it out (only used once in whole score)....it worked for me....

I can't speak about Carter since I've never been a fan, but I'm interested in where Bartók used this. I'm only aware of his innovation of a snap pizzicato, but not use of a fingernail. I know his scores pretty intimately and would like to know what you've found where he used a nail pizzicato (if not for conventional strings, my guess is the mandolin?). Thanks. Unrelated to your issue, just curious.

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Hi David

"Fingernail pizzicato was used by composers at least as early as Bartok, in the second violin part of his String Quartet No. 5 (1936, p. 8) and his Music for Strings, Percussion and Celesta (1939, p. 24), and appears regularly in repertoire written since the middle of the 20th century.[1]"

http://research.lizzywelsh.com/?page_id=417

and, of course, Wikipedia "Nail pizzicato is another technique invented and used extensively by Bartók." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bowed_string_instrument_extended_technique

btw, thanks for all for input

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btw, I haven't checked the Bartok scores and only going by the reference

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Forgot about that. I’ve had that score of the fifth quartet since I was a kid and just lost track of that nail pizzicato. But I think Bartók made up his own symbol (he used something like a distinctive circle) that he defined at the bottom of that page in the second movement. Thanks. 

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