in my experience the BIG Tahoe problem is that it doesn't allow UNDO...
yours?
I no longer use Finale, but just tried it (I'm on the latest development seed of Tahoe: 26.1 but that shouldn't matter) and undo works just fine. There are other issues with Finale (no way for me to use Smart Shapes as it defaults to the same one I never use) but undo is not among them, truthfully. You might want to restart.
Finale in Tahoe has a few issues. The biggest one is that Playback doesn't work as it should—you can start but after that, only the Spacebar is reliable.
There are a few other issues, all related to the macOS. Except for the occasional hangup with NotePerformer (Save/Quit/Restart to clear—no need to reboot), Finale in Sequoia is great; in Tahoe it's ... I just can't recommend it. Apple promised me that Tahoe 26.2 would drop nearly a month ago but it hasn't happened yet—supposed to clear up some really annoying bugs including one that I find unacceptable.
Smart Shapes works just fine. I have verified this many times but I did a clean install of the macOS the way Apple recommends on a test volume instead of using bullshit cloneware to copy my problems over like David does.
David: to be very clear: You don't know what you are doing. Please stop blaming Finale for your ignorance. I've tried to teach you but you refuse to learn.
Mike: can you not read? As I posted in another thread, stop attacking me. In other words, piss off. Why am I occupying space in your head?
Again, cloning has zero to do with any Finale issues-I've only used Finale on my laptop, not an external volume. And I only rarely open Finale these days, having switched over a year ago to Dorico rather than use dead, unsupported software that has more bugs than the average insectarium.
Clearly you have zero idea what I'm doing and keep making ridiculous and insulting statements. So please piss off already and stop insulting me in this forum.
David, I'm not attacking you. I am pointing out to others that you don't know what you are talking about. You don't. The problems you complain about over Sequoia and Tahoe—Smart Shapes not working, for example—are caused by User Error and that user is David Taub. We even know why as you can't follow simple instructions for creating a clean Volume instead telling us how you used CCC to create it. I could quote post after post after post after post after post after... but that would just waste more of my time.
As long as you continue to post crap, I will call it out. It's a service that I am providing to others on this board. You don't like it? Easy. Stop posting nonsense. Problem solved.
You are very definitely attacking me, and have not so much as even apologized. I ran Finale 27 on my own computer, always. Not a backup volume. I merely indicated that I do use CCC, as well as Time Machine, for my backups. That's my choice, and nothing wrong with having a CCC backup. But that has nothing whatsoever to do with how I ran Finale. And no, even after reinstalling on my laptop after a complete uninstallation of Finale (as in every Finale-related file, preference, etc; nothing was left), smart shapes do not work. It's not my "user error." I had been a Finale user from the early 90's until Sept 2024, and was reporting my own findings. If Smart Shapes do not work on my system, then that's an observation. Uninstalling and reinstalling a clean version from a newly-downloaded Finale installer did not fix this. But sure, keep blaming me and tell me I'm posting "crap."
And you can't even correctly spell my last name. JFC.
You are very definitely attacking me, and have not so much as even apologized
I am attacking your ignorance and, until you learn a few things, have no intention of apologising.
You are the one who keeps going on about a Smart Shapes bug over Sequoia, then Tahoe. That bug does not exist over either macOS. The problem is the way you created those volumes — which you did post many times. What's the conflict? I neither know nor care other than I know that you copied it over. I gave simple instructions for creating a clean Volume and you posted how you used CCC to do the same—except that it wasn't the same because the macOS cannot be cloned. Had you done it Apple's way which would have taken five seconds, you couldn't have copied the problem over, David.
Your issues are User Error and the problem is the User. That User is you. I'm only posting what I have observed so that others do not follow your example.
"I am attacking your ignorance and, until you learn a few things, have no intention of apologising." (sic)
Speaking as a fellow human being, I think you need professional help. Why do I seem to live in your head? At least tone down the volume of vitriol here. As I asked several times, please stop. But also, please do something about your level of rudeness, lack of anger management, and outright insulting comments. If I ever treated anyone the way you've treated me in this forum, without a bit of compunction or regret, I'd deserve a serious rebuke. This is not appropriate behavior on any forum, including this one. You'd never get away with this crap on the Dorico forum, for example.
"You are the one who keeps going on about a Smart Shapes bug over Sequoia, then Tahoe. That bug does not exist over either macOS. The problem is the way you created those volumes — which you did post many times."
Wrong. If you actually read anything I wrote about this, I made it very clear that I'm working on my MacBook Air, which is where my fresh Finale installation is. Not an external volume. So you're ranting like a crazy person about something that is not the situation.
"What's the conflict? I neither know nor care other than I know that you copied it over."
As above. Nothing was "copied" over. You know nothing about this, apparently.
"I gave simple instructions for creating a clean Volume and you posted how you used CCC to do the same—except that it wasn't the same because the macOS cannot be cloned. Had you done it Apple's way which would have taken five seconds, you couldn't have copied the problem over, David."
I only mentioned that one could use CCC to clone the data. That is not incorrect but also irrelevant to the fact that Finale absolutely sucks on my computer running macOS 26.3. I even tried it today for the hell of it and the same issues are there. This is NOT on an external drive, cloned or otherwise. So stop ranting about cloning and about how little I know. And hey, you've been threatening for many months now to actually post something that could help people develop a fresh, bootable volume with Finale on it, and have never done so, making me wonder if you really are any better than the Republican Party that has promised a health care plan for many years...
"Your issues are User Error and the problem is the User. That User is you. I'm only posting what I have observed so that others do not follow your example."
If a fresh, virginal installation of Finale has the same issues as the prior installation, it ain't user error.
As I've politely requested several times, stop invoking my name, stop calling me names, and just stop it already. I have had issues with Finale (who hasn't?), especially over the past year , and am really glad I no longer need it except for occasional revisions of older works of mine. But as happened today with adding a few expressions, clicking anywhere now ends up adding an unselected marking, which is not correct behavior. Glitches are there, and it has NOTHING to do with cloning, time machine, backups, etc. I'm running a fresh installation of Finale on my laptop's built-in SSD. I've said this several times but clearly you don't seem to understand or haven't read a damned thing I've written.
So, who's the ignorant person here?
If a fresh, virginal installation of Finale has the same issues as the prior installation, it ain't user error.
When done the Apple way, there isn't over Sequoia. When done the David way, there is. You are the one who says that Smart Shapes don't work over Sequoia/Tahoe. Sorry, David, they do. That is USER ERROR, David, and you are the USER committing the ERROR.
Back OT: There are potential Tahoe solutions that may appear in the New Year. If they work, Finale should still be good through mid 2027. Installation over whatever Apple introduces in October 2027 will not be possible without someone breaking down the ARIA installer and installing the components manually. Yep, the ARIA Installer is not Apple Silicon Native and requires Rosetta 2, being discontinued 10/2027 according to Apple.
I am holding off posting my universal Finale Drive for Mac instructions until one of those solutions proves to work or none do. I hope to know one way or the other by February.
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