I do not have problems with this (= I can change a smart shape’s attachment as needed).

Can you provide exact steps to reproduce the problem?

In the part, I try dragging the smart shape by the handle, but it remains attached to the same spot.

… In the part, I try dragging the smart shape by the handle …

Try this:

Instead of moving it in the part, move it in the score.

Press Option while you drag a shape handle or the entire shape. The attachment lines should now move along.

@Peter, the smart shapes need to be all lined up in the score given the score's layout. But in the part, the shape needs a different position.

@Bruce , I tried it in the part, but it just remains attached at the same place.

… Is there a way to move a smart shape so it is attached to a new note or beat, possibly in a different measure? …

… I try dragging the smart shape by the handle, but it remains attached to the same spot …

… the smart shapes need to be all lined up in the score given the score's layout. But in the part, the shape needs a different position …

I am afraid I do not understand.

A smart shape has an attachment point (= the beat/note it is attached to) and a positioning in the layout.

The two do not have to be the same.

The attachment point affects the playback.

The positioning affects the layout.

Is your issue a playback issue (= different playback in the score and in the part)?

Is your issue a layout issue (= different layout in the score and in the part)?

I want to affect the layout only, in the part only.

… I want to affect the layout only, in the part only …

If I understand you correctly, you do not need to change the attachment point so that the smart shape is attached to a new note or beat, right?

In that case I would just move the smart shape in the part.

You can move the entire shape, or you can move only an end point.

You can move it by dragging, or by selecting and nudging with the arrow keys.

As you move it, it changes colour, since its positioning is no longer linked to the score.

THis is my original post above:

Hi, Is there a way to move a smart shape so it is attached to a new note or beat, possibly in a different measure?

Now I am really confused.

If your issue is a layout issue only (and not a playback issue), then why do you need to change the attachment point?

Why not just move the shape in the part?

Why is it a problem that the moved shape is still attached to the same note or beat?

I cannot move it to a previous or following measure, especially if the measures wrap around a new staff.  You are challenging why I want to do it. Please believe that I want to.

Sorry, I did not mean to challenge why you want to do it; I am just trying to understand.

The better I understand, the better I can help.

As Far As I Can Tell, you can not have different attachment point in score and part.

Workaround:

In the score, change the attachment point so that it is where needed in the part.

Then, in the score move the end point - without changing the attachment point.

To do so, hold down Option while moving the end point.

Michael,

Moving a smart shape to a new note is easy. Click and drag the handle for the start of the slur and drag it to a new note. The new note will be highlighted verifying the attachment. Do the same thing with the end handle of the slur.

It might be faster to just delete the old slur and out a new one in at you desired location.

If you're trying to do this where the slur starts on one system and ends on a different system, the method is a little different. The easiest way to do this is to switch to scroll view, change or re-position your slur, then switch back to page view.

Hi Peter,

Is this right? 

"

Then, in the score move the end point - without changing the attachment point.

To do so, hold down Option while moving the end point."

Jeffrey,

Thank you for offering your ideas and help. The culprit in this case is the dashed line smartline, and the rit...... smart line, not the slur. 

… Hi Peter,

Is this right? 

"Then, in the score move the end point - without changing the attachment point.

To do so, hold down Option while moving the end point." …

It works for me (in Finale v26.1).

Are you saying that it does not work for you?

Peter, in the score, I don't see any difference between holding Option and dragging, vs dragging. The smart shape just moves and the in and out attach points also move.

… in the score, I don't see any difference between holding Option and dragging, vs dragging. The smart shape just moves and the in and out attach points also move …

I can not explain why it is working for me, but not for you.

Take a look in

Preferences - Edit

Is the option {Anchor Indicator Lines When Dragging or Nudging Items} selected or de-selected?

With some Finale options the order in which you select things make a difference. Try an experiment...

1. Choose the articulation and release.
2. Then press and hold the ALT/OPT key
3. With the OPT key held, click and drag the articulation and see if the anchor line says fixed.

There may be simpler ways to do this which you can find by trial and error, but this seems the most reliable way I have found to move one staff with the Staff Tool, so I thought I'd suggest you try it with articulations.

Here is a short video where I follow JAV's steps. The first time I drag the hairpin is without Option depressed. The second time is with.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/9kwn7m3kzmzldez/moving%20smart%20shapes.mov?dl=0

Michael Williams,

When I move the smart shape, I am in the Smart Shape Tool.

* Are you perhaps trying to move the smart shape from the Selection Tool?

That would explain the behaviour we can see in your video - there are no handles appearing on the smart shape.

Try switching to the Smart Shape Tool before you move the smart shape while holding down Option.

Hi All,

I'm working with support on this as well They wrote:

" since there typically isn't a use case for providing a different set of instructions to the player (in the part) than the conductor (in the score)."

It's not at all about giving different instructions. It's only about layout. The lines in the part have a completely different layout than in the score.

In the first screenshot, you can see a bit of the attachment line slanting upward to the right. That line attaches all the way to the previous staff last bar. So, although the line is attached to the previous system, Finale is drawing it on the next staff.

In the next screenshot, You can see that the rit..... line does not continue on the next staff the way it should.

If I move the last bar of that staff to the next staff, then there is no rit.... line at all! (See the last screenshot attached)

So I need to move the rit... line in the part to work around Finale's problems displaying the rit... line correctly.