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PC, Finale 25.5

I made a Finale arrangement which was playing fine, then did some editing and suddenly it won't play. As far as I know I didn't change any sound settings. I'm using VST with Directsound  and SoftSynth instruments, not Garritan. I've got MIDI through set. When I play the file it in Studio view I can see the sound levels moving up and down with the notes, but no sound. I've got the Finale output set to 70% in the computer's volume mixer. All other Finale files with what I think are the same settings are playing fine.

The the audio set-up is pictured below. The Test Audio button gives a strong output.

Here is a link to a musx file with a couple of measures from the beginning of the piece. Clicking the link should allow you to download the file. (I couldn't see how to attach a file in the posting). Any advice will be appreciated, thanks.

https://1drv.ms/u/s!AgyXrlsirttLks8JsidSDNrYfBcvXw 

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I don't have any VST loaded, but it plays back through MIDI for me in Finale 25, 26, and 27.

 

Have you tried restarting the computer?

 

You can't attach a Finale file in their own forum. Clever of them, no?

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Restarting computer didn't help, still no sound. But I changed the settings to play through MIDI instead of VST (still no sound) and then re-set to playing through VST and voila, it started playing properly - with exactly the same settings as I had originally. I tried to replicate this on the full score, but so far no luck. It does play properly if I switch to Garritan instruments instead of SoftSynth, but the volume of the Garritan instruments is quite low, and not suitable for my needs (playing scores through Zoom for choir practice - we're in another lockdown in Sydney, Australia). I guess I'll have to keep fiddling with the settings. The funny thing is I have a lot of other scores which work perfectly with the same settings.  (I see that you assist some choir folk too)

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You need to learn how to play through Zoom — that's a Zoom issue involving the Zoom Audio Driver and it's way different for Mac vs Windows. Things have changed over the last 18 months so I'm pretty sure that the links I have are old news. But, knowing the real problem should help since so many are doing it.

 

One workaround is to not play from Finale. Instead, prerecord your audio or make a video by recording your screen. Now, when you share that, you are using Computer Audio (as Zoom calls it) and that's easy to share—also the same on Mac & Win. I was about 3 rehearsals in with my online choirs 18 months ago when I decided that the Zoom Audio Driver was a pain and switched over to Computer Audio. It helps big time that my accompanist is "in the room where it happens" since I no longer play but if I had to pre-record all my accompaniments, I could do that.

 

I understand that Zoom Audio in apps is no longer the pain it used to be. Since how I do it is easy and it works, I no longer care.

 

When we make our videos for church, I record a Zoom meeting with everyone lip sync'ing to Computer Audio. It will be way out of sync because of latency. I then open it up in a video editor and synchronize, edit, add fades if needed. The video never takes me more than 15 minutes or so. I understand that this can now be done in Zoom these days but it's so easy in Adobe Premiere Elements that I've never bothered to explore this.

 

Here's one I did in Finale. It was an arrangement I did in high school 50 years ago the old fashioned way, pen & ink. I transcribed it to Finale in 1990 on my Mac Plus. I had rehearsed this with the choir and, when it was time to make the backing tracks the usual way (my wife plays them into Digital Performer), she looked at me and said, "Didn't you do this 30 years ago?" Oh yea… The file opened right up in 26 where I replaced Sonata with Maestro so I could see it. I then assigned better instruments from GiFF and a harp from SampleTank/Miroslav, put the guide tracks in a Dropbox folder so my singers could record their parts, recorded a choir rehearsal where they lip-sync'd, assembled the result tracks and added the new audio to the Zoom track. It was much easier than I just made it sound. 

https://youtu.be/fn-5cTRn5mo 

 

Anyone else remembering when we had to obtain Sonata from Adobe to use Finale?

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Hi Mike

First thing, I played around a bit with the full Finale score for the piece - changed to Garritan instruments, then back to SoftSynth instruments, and, lo and behold, it started playing properly. Fingers crossed that it will remain stable now, whatever that problem was. By the way, you might have recognised that two bar fragment, from the introduction to Battle Hymn on the Republic.

Thanks for link to your Bach Chorale - very nicely done, neat technique.

Zoom has improved dramatically in its ability to play an acceptable audio quality. You click the "Enable original sound" button, and make sure that the hi-fi setting is enabled (this is on PC). Also, when you first go to Share Screen make sure the two little boxes are ticked. And to avoid interference, everyone must mute.

Finale is great for doing choir part learning via Zoom in our locked down situation. I simply share the screen in Studio View so the choir can see the score with their part, including words. The choir director tells me what he wants to practise - e.g. turn off the accomp and just play the first section of the tenor part. The "solo" buttons in Studio View are handy for quickly selecting two parts, say bass 1 and bass 2, to play on their own. Of course, we can't do true ensemble because of the latency problem, but it's a lot better than not being able to get together at all. It can be amusing when you start this sort of Zoom activity and someone says "Why can't we all  try singing at once - I'm singing along in time with the music, it should be fine". They're quickly convinced by the resulting cacophony.

I vaguely remember something about Sonata. I started using Finale in the early 1990's. It has come a long way since then, probably spurred on by competition from Sibelius.

Gerry

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I've had this issue a few times.  Try MIDI/Audio --> Reassign Playback Sounds.  Seems to clear the confusion and get the audio going.

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Jeff this ia a 3 year old post.

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